Thursday, February 21, 2008

Would i, would i?

"Hairlip! Hairlip!" ok, that's the punch line to an old, bad joke....the real question is, if i were in Frank Klopas' shoes right now and were offered a three for one trade proposed by fellow blogger Ives Galarcep for Wilman Conde, would i take it?

Ives asked yesterday if Chicago should accept an offer of Dane Richards, Dema Kovalenko, Jeff Parke, a first round draft pick and cash for Conde.

I probably wouldn't make this trade, because there's a hidden cost in any three for one trade. Unless you're receiving Generation Adidas players in return, you're forced to waive (or trade for 4th round draft picks) two players.

So in this case, we'd be talking about essentially trading Conde and two reserve players (maybe Osei Telesford and John Thorrington) for Richards, Kovalenko, Parke, a first round draft pick and some money that partially offset the $300k the Fire already spent on Conde's transfer.

It's still unknown what Telesford - and to a large extent Thorrington - can deliver for the Fire.

There's going to come a point in this season - probably sooner than later - when the Red Bulls are on a losing streak, are giving up goals aplenty and Dema is complaining to JCO.

That's when the leverage will be shifted to Chicago's side and that's when i would make a deal - if at all.


Pablo Chicago said...

I thought the offer reeked of desperation. Apart from a 2nd round draft pick, the Bulls have done nothing to strenghen their back line.

It gave me the impression that they were confident they could get Conde and when that didn't materialize, they threw in one of their "untouchables" as trade bait.

If Richards didn't have a reason to walk from the Bulls first chance he gets, he does now.

Tom said...

Peter, I read somewhere that money can't be included in a trade for players (though allocations can). Do you know if that's true at all?

peter said...

Tom, unless the rule changed recently, teams can not trade cash or salary cap room (although there is a way to trade cap room by having one of the teams agree to hold onto the salary of a traded player for an agreed amount of time. That may or may not have changed in the last year. You are correct about allocations being fungible. If those rules are still in place, it would restrict the mechanisms Red Bull NY would have to compensate Chicago for last year's Conde transfer fee to allocation money and held cap money (i.e., NY holds Dema and Parke's salary for the 2008 season).

Tom said...

Thanks for the info, Peter. It's always so hard to keep up with MLS' rulebook.

Anonymous said...

Peter I looked up the "hair lip" joke and I'm sad to say it took me a minute to "get" it.